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Okay, so real life intervened into my re-watching, and then when I did rewatch real life got in the way of writing my reactions, and then I was left staring at the computer screen trying to remember what in the world I was going to say... so I had to re-watch again.
Oh, darn.

Serpent's Lair
This might just be one of my favorite episodes of Stargate ever. There's something for everyone, here--Jack not being profound and his "bad day" remarks (right up until they blow up the ships) and Bra'tac being himself (that is, awesome), some angst about Daniel (not really) dying, a sarcophagus, grenades, last-minute escapes, biting, and one of my favorite Carter moments ("Captain, look up.").
(I admit I never realized before that the flash the SGC sees on the ship is the shock grenade thing that takes SG-1 out.)
I have to take a moment to reflect on the awesomeness that is Sam biting Jack's hand. Just... that's her first method of defense after waking up blind, and I love it.
Then, just after that, we get grumpy Bra'tac, who chastises them for daring to try to save their world. Also, he has really crappy plans. And he tells them Skaara still lives, which, okay, they just had that emotional death scene, and now he's not dead, which has to both relieve and torment Jack. Eesh.
Okay, how much do I love that Jack and Bra'tac are using their time sneaking around a Goa'uld ship to one-up each other and spout cliches? THIS MUCH.
Teal'c got in on the cliche action, too, with "Kill two birds with but one stone," which is way more poetic and, as Daniel would say, deep.
Hee! Hammond doesn't like Samuels' bad plan. Guess he only likes bad plans if SG-1 thinks them up. I also appreciate that Hammond truly doesn't mind if Samuels ends up being right--he just thinks that's very, very unlikely. Can't really say I'm sorry Hammond doesn't let him go to the Alpha site, either.
Speaking of the Alpha site... what happened to everyone who was sent there? For security reasons, they weren't told where they were going... can they really just let them back on Earth? Seriously, Stargate inspires so many questions about the idea that the Stargate program isn't public. *tries not to think about it too much*
Seriously, can we have the Jack and Bra'tac show? *loves them*
Celebratory paper throwing! (That never fails to crack me up.)
Finally, the reveal that Daniel isn't dead is the weirdest reveal ever. No, really. It makes no sense. There is no way that wasn't one of the first things discussed on the shuttle (SHUTTLES). "How did you know to look for us in the first place?" "Oh, that's not important."
Uh huh.
Regardless, it's still a fantastically happy episode! I was not at all sad to watch it again (again). *g*

In the Line of Duty

I love the whole Tok'ra storyline, and the Jolinar stuff. If I were writing the show, I would have stretched it out a bit more, but SG-1 is a pretty episodic show, so… it works.

I absolutely love the way Jolinar almost has Sam down. I adore the slip of "just a Jaffa," in that wonderfully condescending tone the Tok'ra have, and punching Jack on the arm in a buddy-buddy way, and all the other little details that just aren't quite right, aren't quite Sam.

I loved Daniel talking with the alien woman about her husband, and how he didn't act goa'uld-y, and how his anger slipped through: "How can you not know?"

Teal'c's advice about not seeing a friend when interrogating Jolinar is good but useless, as Jack points out. (I'm willing to go out on a limb here and say that this is one of the first moments I can truly appropriate for ship purposes. It doesn't make me squee, but it does make me happy (and corroborates my "Jack fell first" theory.).)

I do wonder about the bandages wrapped around various faces in this episode. Is that how you actually wrap burned heads? Because I find it really convenient that the bandages all come off in one pull like that.

I just love all the questions that aren't answered in this episode (I'm not being sarcastic). Was that really Sam coming through in the scene with Jack? How much did Jolinar's former host know? Was he being controlled the whole time, or was Jolinar sort of just hiding out? What would have happened if Jolinar had, in fact, escaped? (The fic possibilities kill me!)

Also this exchange (paraphrased):

Jolinar: Let me go!
Teal'c: We will not let you go!
Jolinar: Let me go!
Teal'c We will not let you go!


Jolinar has to be pretty famous for Teal'c to know of her. I kinda want to know the things she's famous for… Also, I find it really interesting that Daniel doesn't come see her, but he's the one who still believes Sam is in there and aware. He's also the one who takes the hardest line--until Jolinar mentions Sha're.

How did Janet know the guy in the bandages was Dr. Jacob from the blood work? Hmm. That is, however, one REALLY cool ring. It hypnotizes, scans, and kills--all in one!

The scene with Cassie at the end is just fabulous. *hugs them both*


I think the team just likes picking up strays. You know, I can't really fault the team here--I mean, they don't know anything about what's going on, and he could just be sick or hurt or delusional. Still, maybe they'll learn to ask a few more questions before they help a mass murderer escape her prison and set her loose on the galax---

Oh. Right.

There are some nicely creepy touches in this episode--the smoking shoes/feet, the whistling--seriously, that would creep me right the hell out.

Sam could have taken Vishnor. I'm not so sure she could have taken the other dozen guys.

Sam is really not so good with the subtext, is she? I know, I know. Asking that question is like asking if the Goa'uld like shiny things, but you'd think that she'd probe a little deeper into the whole "I take responsibility" thing. It's not just Sam, though--they all bear some of the guilt for Linea's escape.

Daniel trying to save the people standing in the way of the gate--totally him. I don't know about you, but I absolutely wouldn't believe the men caught in the kawoosh were taken elsewhere without the rest of their legs. There's actually a lot of things in this episode I find unbelievable. (Sam's naiveté isn't actually one of them.) The team (including Daniel) accepting Daniel's "win," for one.

Teal'c looking scary and taking point, however, I buy.

Hammond being awesome? Oh, yes. Also, I can't ever forget the conversation about exhaling right before you enter the event horizon. And "The things I do for these people." HAH. I love his reluctance and worry about the Stargate. It's adorable.

As is Daniel's insistence his friends eat first. HAH. (Almost as good as Teal'c passing on the substandard fare.)

Okay, look. I have absolutely no idea if this is at all in the realm of possible, but the plant-generators and tentacle things look ridiculous.

(Random question is random: What happens if you enter a gate from the wrong side?)

Okay, they really, really shouldn't have trusted ANYONE near a base computer. Let alone a prison escapee. I do, however, think her last message is awesome. "Thanks for the lift! As a small token of my appreciation, I won't blow you all up! Kisses, Linea."

Date: 2011-06-06 05:07 am (UTC)
kayim: (Stargate: Daniel Arms)
From: [personal profile] kayim
Just spotted your post via the Latest Things page and just wanted to come and blow kisses at you!

I'm also in the middle of a Stargate rewatch after about 5 years of not watching an episodes of it at all, and I'm falling back in love with it! I'm just at the end of Season 3 now (already watched Nemesis/Small Victories with hubby but going back to watch Crystal Skull still).

I think I'm hooked again!

And I might have to subscribe to you :) Hope that's okay!

Date: 2011-06-06 08:31 am (UTC)
thothmes: Jack holds his bitten hand - "Ask Doc if Carter's had all her shots" (Ask Doc About Carter's Shots)
From: [personal profile] thothmes
Serpent's Lair

I just always assumed that the shuttle was up there because it happened to be on a mission. You simply cannot decide on Wednesday that you are going to launch one of those puppies on Thursday. It takes much more lead time. Like a month.

No, what always troubles me is how the hell did they get them into the shuttle without space suits? I just always look at that last glimpse of them after the shuttle hoves into view, and expect the scene where Teal'c and Bra'tac are smugly and happily awaiting rescue, and Jack is saying "Ahhh... Carter? You wanna tell me how we're gonna do the transfer here? 'Cause as I understand it, vaccuum BAD!"

Shuttles aren't equipped with ring transporters in this era!

In the Line of Duty

I'm a sucker for the scene with Cassie telling Jack that Sam is a goa'uld. I'm a sucker for any scene with Jack and kids.

I'm with you. Jack knew first, but Jack survives by lying to himself on a regular basis, and pretending to take those lies at face value, ao it took longer for Jack to have obvious tells. Carter just has a head that keeps overruling her heart, so it's easier for her to give herself away.


Yeah, this is one of those episodes with plot holes you can drive a bus through, and character moments of (mental/tactical) density that could stop an irresistable force.

And it always seems so terribly not-Daniel of Daniel not to yip around Jack's ankles until he at least surrenders the bare bones of his little P.O.W. incident. A big fat juicy clue has been plopped there just centimeters from his nose, and he refuses to rise to the investigatory bait? Not Daniel-like!!

And letting a Carter-smart alien get access to the mainframe before she has been thoroughly vetted? This is the Plot Hole That Ate New York!

This one is worth the price of admission for the awesome!Hammond moments, though.

I also think it's a very telling revelation of Jack's character and tactics that he makes no attempt to go all alpha on Vishnoor and work to become Top Dog, with all the privileges for him and his companions that would come with that. He opts instead for only as much aggression as will keep them safe. He hangs back, probably knowing that to be Alpha in this situation is to ask to be torn down, like the child on the top of the mound in a game of King of the Mountain. It would be more expected for a strong-alpha type like Jack to be shown dominating and leading because this is TV and he's the hero! Our hero always rises to the top.

Date: 2011-06-06 04:46 am (UTC)
ext_1358: (Default)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
(Random question is random: What happens if you enter a gate from the wrong side?)

Doesn't Teal'c have a throw-away line about that somewhere? Or something?


Date: 2011-06-07 05:56 pm (UTC)
ext_2131: picture of a fish with lots of green (Default)
From: [identity profile] holdouttrout.livejournal.com
I really can't remember! Something must happen. Something bad...

Date: 2011-06-07 06:08 pm (UTC)
ext_1358: (Default)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
I think that's pretty much exactly what Teal'c says. Something like "There was a Jaffa once foolish enough to ask that question."; "What happened?"; "He died."

Date: 2011-06-07 06:13 pm (UTC)
ext_2131: picture of a fish with lots of green (Default)
From: [identity profile] holdouttrout.livejournal.com
Ah! Yes... that definitely rings a bell.

Date: 2011-06-06 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassievalentine.livejournal.com
I wrote one of my fave Fics(part of last years bigbang) around SAMs angering after jolinar and Cassie trying to comfort her

Date: 2011-06-07 05:57 pm (UTC)
ext_2131: picture of a fish with lots of green (Default)
From: [identity profile] holdouttrout.livejournal.com
It's such an interesting dynamic and reaction!

Date: 2011-06-11 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rdamel.livejournal.com
I love your rewatches!

I love a lot of the things you mention from Serpent's Lair.
I almost never rewatch Prisoners--definitely not an episode I cared for, at all.

Date: 2011-06-11 09:44 pm (UTC)
ext_2131: picture of a fish with lots of green (Default)
From: [identity profile] holdouttrout.livejournal.com
Heh. Prisoners is not one of the best, but it's certainly got some good moments. Mostly with Hammond. *g*

Date: 2011-06-12 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] archersangel.livejournal.com
i like the scene with Cassie at the end of in the line of duty too.

Date: 2011-06-14 08:00 pm (UTC)

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