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holdouttrout) wrote2013-04-30 02:13 pm
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Tropes
Okay, you know the trope about the war-hardened soldier who just wants to grow peas/smuggle/drink and get old and definitely doesn't want to go save the world, right? Think Han Solo, or even the Wizard in the new, not-great Oz movie. Or Madmartigan.
That's the trope. Where are the women? I can think of one example (kinda) in a Patricia C. Wrede book (Caught in Crystal, where the main character is sought out because she went on a pretty interesting trip when she was young that seems to have some ramifications in the present.). I'm actually pretty sure there are more, but I'm drawing a blank.
I also looked on TV Tropes, but I don't think I have the right name for the trope--and I'm definitely NOT talking about the Lovable Rogue or The Lancer, although those could be combined with this one.
Halp.
That's the trope. Where are the women? I can think of one example (kinda) in a Patricia C. Wrede book (Caught in Crystal, where the main character is sought out because she went on a pretty interesting trip when she was young that seems to have some ramifications in the present.). I'm actually pretty sure there are more, but I'm drawing a blank.
I also looked on TV Tropes, but I don't think I have the right name for the trope--and I'm definitely NOT talking about the Lovable Rogue or The Lancer, although those could be combined with this one.
Halp.
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ETA: But you're right that female examples are really hard to think of. The TV Tropes page suggests Cordelia Vorkosigan, but I don't know ... she's not THAT retired. Need to think about this ...
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I remember one in an Elizabeth Moon novel (after checking: Heris Serrano in Hunting Party), and you could say that Katniss Everdeen becomes this. I feel sure there should be more. I'm having difficulty coming up with any non-book ones aside from Zoe from Firefly, as mentioned above.
I think it's a victim of the 'women aren't allowed to be old' syndrome.
(ETA: Madmartigan!)
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(Though, I think Moon and McCaffrey's Generation Warriors has some older ladies who snark, they're still employed)
hrm. The Helen Mirren character from Red?
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