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holdouttrout ([personal profile] holdouttrout) wrote2008-03-03 08:14 am
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Dangerously Daring: The Spanish Edition

Languages are always important for a dangerously daring person to know. For instance, it is vitally important that, should you travel to a foreign country, you can ask where the bathroom is, and also be able to tell someone you love them. Everything else can be covered with pointing and charades.

Now, the boy's book has Latin phrases, which are interesting, but not terribly useful. And the girl's book has Spanish phrases, which are useful but not particularly interesting--except for the Spanish equivalent of "The real McCoy," which makes me crack up. So I went with Spanish and decided to do a (very little) bit more research.

Oh, yes. I'm sure you're thinking to yourself: She is going to talk about Spanish vocab words, which I have no use for at all. Why bother clicking on the cut?

Because I'm going to give you some unusual Spanish phrases, that's why.



English Equivalent Literal English Spanish
The real McCoy The real, real potato seller El mero, mero patatero
I don't get it! It doesn't fit in my head! ¡No me cabe en la cabeza!
He's so old he can barely walk. He's falling of age. Se cae de viejo.
To get goose bumps lit. "the flesh of a hen" ponerse la carne de gallina


Other useful phrases to know (taken from "Wicked Spanish for the Traveler"* are:

English Spanish
When did the brakes go out? ?Cuando se fueron los frenos?
You make me hot, my chili pepper. Me calientas mucho, chilito mio.


Because you can never know when super brake-cutting spies or love will strike.

*Please, don't attempt to use any of the phrases from this book. They are, usually, Really Bad Spanish and also can be very culturally insensitive. Not to mention difficult to remember.



In the comments, if you have unusual phrases you think everyone should know, you should share them.

[identity profile] knightedrogue.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
The Russian word 'громко' (transposed 'gromka') does NOT equal 'holla' (transposed 'holla back youngin').

Do not use in this context while in St. Petersberg. Even if you are dangerously daring and young and ... American. ;)

*life experience*

And you're telling me you had to LOOK UP 'you make me hot my chili pepper'? YOU? I thought you were all kinds of daring while living in Spain. Le sigh.
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[identity profile] holdouttrout.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, if I wanted to tell someone they were making me hot, I would absolutely never use that phrase. I'm not sure what I would use--but it wouldn't be that.

Mostly I learned useful phrases like "Vale," which I still try to use in compeltely inappropriate contexts here, and "Fuerte," which has no English equivalent I can think up.

Oh, and "?Tienes fuego?," which means, "Do you have a light?" Not that I USED it, but I definitely got ASKED it.

[identity profile] spiletta42.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I was warned against using "calientas" in that context, unless referring to animals in heat.
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[identity profile] holdouttrout.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, there's a *reason* one shouldn't actually use any of the phrases from that book. In fact, I should definitely disclaim it.

[identity profile] supplyship.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
No orine aquí.

That is, "Don't urinate here." which I saw on signs, in several places in Lima. Evidently, that's a problem?
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[identity profile] holdouttrout.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Very, very interesting. And gross.

[identity profile] shutthef-up.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG! I *adore* foreign language phrase books! I got one by a guy named Steve (James? Don't remember, but I've *got* to find that book now!)

The Italian phrase book had winners like:

"There are mice in my room." (I remember the word for 'mice' is 'tipi')

"If you don't slow down, I'm going to vomit!" (always helpful and gets the point across nicely)

And, of course, knowing me...

"Do you have a condom?" (Of *course* I remember that the word for 'condom' is 'protectivo'!)
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[identity profile] holdouttrout.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, 'protectivo' only makes sense, really. :-)
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[identity profile] la-tante.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
i have a couple for you. well a few (french teacher here) if you say: je suis chaud(e) i am hot--it is a sexual thing. not to be done. same for je suis plein(e) i am full would be i am pregnant. also to be avoided. and my favorite idiomatic phrase en français of all time is il pleut comme une vach qui pisse: it's raining like a pissing cow. hmm and just in my travels be careful of asking for a ride in the uk. you'd be better off asking for a lift. oh i love language!
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[identity profile] la-tante.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
sorry vache has an -e at the end. can't let a typo go even in french!
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[identity profile] holdouttrout.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Isn't language a lot of fun? Oh, the trouble one can acquire with just a few handy phrases...
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[identity profile] stargazercmc.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, to add some French to the mix, my teacher was always big on throwing this one out for us NOT to say to anyone in Spain:

Tu es une vache espagnol.

(Translation: You are a Spanish cow.)

I learned some more... um... adult-oriented phrases in my college courses, but I wasn't sure what the rating in your post was. :)
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[identity profile] la-tante.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
i adore your icon! do you share?
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[identity profile] stargazercmc.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I do, but it's not mine. I snurched from [livejournal.com profile] thefunkyicon, so that's where the credit goes.
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[identity profile] la-tante.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
very cool. thanks for the directions.
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[identity profile] holdouttrout.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
For some reason my Spanish teachers never taught us the adult-type phrases. V. sad.

*grins*
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[identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com 2008-03-04 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Ack. I think I have the French edition of that book (Wicked French), but I can't find it. However, from a quick scan on Amazon -

Sans vous je ne suis qu'un ver de terre - Without you I am nothing but an earthworm.

Ces truffes puantes sont surfaites - These stinking truffles are overrated.

Ne te rue pas sur mon jupon, Luc, espèce de rustaud brutal! - Stop at my petticoat, Luc, you beastly peasant!

Ce brugnon est très dur - This nectarine is very hard.

All very useful, I'm sure you'll agree...
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[identity profile] holdouttrout.livejournal.com 2008-03-04 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Ne te rue pas sur mon jupon, Luc, espèce de rustaud brutal!

This one is my favorite. Can you actually speak French? I must learn, if only because I keep trying to pronounce the words out loud anyway, and even to my non-French-speaking ear it just sounds painful.
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[identity profile] pepper-field.livejournal.com 2008-03-04 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I can speak it a little bit. Very badly, to be honest (although my accent is fairly decent, because a French friend of my mum taught me for a while). I did do an A-level in it, but I've not had the opportunity to really use the language properly. I'd love to spend a long while in a French-speaking country, someday, to give me the final push to understanding it.

See, I have this book. It's part of a series that I adored since teenagerhood, about a character called Angelique (see icon - and Rigel knows who I'm talking about - romantic novels, you know). It was originally written in French, and the last book or two have not yet been translated. I've read all the ones in English (fifteen or so), and I own one of untranslated French books, and it's frickin' HUGE. I've never managed to get more than about a quarter of the way through. Absolute torture. I need to know what happens. Every now and then I pick it up and have another go.
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[identity profile] holdouttrout.livejournal.com 2008-03-04 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Reading in Spanish is kinda like that. It's not that I can't do it--it's that it takes me so long to get into the book and start really *reading* instead of translating. It's killer.

I'll never forget, though, when I was in Spain, and struggling through literature in classes (some of it in the equivalent of Shakespearean English) I was able to fly through more modern, popular literature. That was so nice. *sighs wistfully*