Livejournal etiquette, crack, love, and LeapGate (aka pimp post of doom!)

[holdouttrout]

Via synecdochic's journal, a handy guide to LJ etiquette for the n00b. Would that I had such a thing when I first encroached upon the lj monster. Not that I did anything too terribly wrong, but it would have been nice. ¹

rigel_7 proves, once again, that she is the genius of crackfic bad!fic. Read The River of Life. Now!

beanpot, one of the most awesome people in fandom ever, is hosting an anonymous love meme. Go, give me love. ²

And, finally, abyssinia4077 is taking prompts for LeapGate through tomorrow! LeapGate is "A February leap-month Stargate CommentFicathon." CommentFicathon! I LOVE those! I will most certainly be avoiding working on my WIP file playing and reading like a crazy woman. Gen, het, slash allowed.

¹The only thing I would add is about people commenting on posts solely to direct you to their own posts (e.g on a post about Sneeze-headed wheezles, someone comments, "I wrote a piece about Gheeze-headed wheezles over here!" I find this unbearably rude. They should, of course, comment and say, "Excellent post! I found this particular paragraph quite fascinating. Did you know that Gheeze-headed wheezles act totally differently? I wrote something about it here, if you'd like to read it." That way, I get an ego-stroking, and I get to read their ever-so-amusing post on Gheeze-headed wheezles, which I will then link back to in a fit of ETA like you've never seen.)

²That is, only if you want to. Really, what you ought to do is go give other people love so I can get all misty-eyed at how much we love each other in a bond that is stronger than a really strong thing!

Comments

[pepper-field.livejournal.com]

Oooh, that LJ etiquette post would probably have terrified me - but also have been useful.

I'd add, "Don't assume that people want to be friends with you in real life, even if you live really, really close, and share an interest. Wait until you've talked to them for a while and have established a friendship before suggesting you meet up." Because, really.

[beanpot.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I am pretty sure I busted that last one of yours and only afterwards did my brain kick in. **face palm**

Still feel weird friending people though, for some reason...

[holdouttrout.livejournal.com]

Ha ha ha! see my response to Pepper for lo, I have done the same thing! (even though I knew better).

[pepper-field.livejournal.com]

Well, I think there's exceptions. Sometimes you connect with someone very quickly (plus not everyone is unsociable, like me *g*). I just... there are a lot of people who like Stargate, but I don't imagine I'd get on with all of them.

[holdouttrout.livejournal.com]

Meeting people from online is scary! I did suggest it to someone from my area without knowing her very well, but I told her I knew it was very forward, and scary, and I also told her who I knew her from, and said that I didn't mind if she never wanted to say hello ever. Which she hasn't, so far. *grins*

I think it's good that no one knows where to find the etiquette posts at first. But they are useful to point to later on.

[pepper-field.livejournal.com]

See, that doesn't sound like a bad way of doing it, to me. Okay, there are exceptions. It might be more about me and my unsociability. :)

[knightedrogue.livejournal.com]

Ahem? Avoiding working on your WIP? WOMAN! Really, you should know better than to think I don't read your SG1 persona's posts. :-)

[holdouttrout.livejournal.com]

I put that in there Just For You.

*loves!*

[knightedrogue.livejournal.com]

Oh you had BETTER love me. I put up with so much grief from you. ;)

[holdouttrout.livejournal.com]

I know, I know. I am wayward and difficult, and more than a little insane.

[supplyship.livejournal.com]

Yes, the LJ Etiquette would have been handy to have six months ago! I don't *think* I've made too many missteps... I probably could be better at introducing myself when friending. Most people seem pretty casual and friendly though, perhaps giving me a false sense of security! ;)

I will give you love! :D For lo, you deserve it.

[holdouttrout.livejournal.com]

Certain circles are anal about friending, but most of the people I talk to go, "Glee! Somebody LIKES me!" and stop about there. :-)

[splash-the-cat.livejournal.com]

The lj post is interesting, though I'm glad the lj circles I run in don't have the "you should let people know when you friend/unfriend them" thing going on, because man, that'd pretty much make me stop using lj.

[holdouttrout.livejournal.com]

I think people are so different when it comes to friending that I took that whole section with a grain of salt. I would suggest that it's better to read the userinfo and make an informed decision about friending someone.

[splash-the-cat.livejournal.com]

Yeah. My personal lj etiquette manifesto would add, "Friending me/me friending you does not in fact obligate me to be your friend or vice versa. Really."

Except for you. You're totally obligated to love me.

[holdouttrout.livejournal.com]

Totally. And I do.

Why else would I write you Sam/Vala on demand?

[splash-the-cat.livejournal.com]

Why else would I write you Sam/Vala on demand?

The orbital mind control lasers?

[holdouttrout.livejournal.com]

It begins to make sense...

[abyssinia4077.livejournal.com]

I'm glad the lj circles I run in don't have the "you should let people know when you friend/unfriend them" thing going on,

Oh, man, SO MUCH YES

I saw that and was all...but...but...

(I mean, overall the post is good, just that part isn't how I jive. Um. I'm using weird words now)
(I blame Rigel! If she blames me for crack, I blame her for something)

[splash-the-cat.livejournal.com]

Yeah. I mean, outside of just the logistics issue, I think the big reason that it bugs me is that it opens the door for some sort of obligations/expectations on both the part of the journaler and reader. It's like that act of expecting/needing permission is like an invitation into your personal space, and can create a sense of intimacy that's not there (which online journals already have a problem with) and can encourage assumptions of interaction and friendship that don't exist (already a problem with the entire terminology of friendslists and friending).

And while a number of people on my flist have certainly become friends through interaction both on and off my lj, I don't have any expectations of people who friend me, nor do I feel I have any obligations to them, or to people whose journals I friend (and I moved to, both personally and in the case of Debrief, using that kind of language where I friend someone's journal, I don't friend that person). After running into an issue with someone once where she did have an expectation of active friendship of the people on her flist and who had her friended (which was not ever explicitly stated, so that went over well when it did come out), I actually put the text in my infopage stating that my flist was a reading list that coincidentally had friends on it.

Wow, that was tl;dr. :)

[holdouttrout.livejournal.com]

Wow, that was tl;dr. :)

Except, you know...I did. ;-)

Also: word.

[abyssinia4077.livejournal.com]

YES

(see, you write it out all long and then I don't have to :) )

I haven't had it cause trouble yet, that I know of...

[mrspollifax.livejournal.com]

*blinks*

Seriously, it's bad form to have a journal just for commenting? Because I know a number of actual, real life people who do this.

[holdouttrout.livejournal.com]

Well, I don't think so. In fact, I'd rather have a bunch of empty or near-empty journals around than a bunch of anonymous commenters. *grins*

[mayogate.livejournal.com]

I am about to go check out the guide - echoing the thought that it woulda been handy when I joined up.
If I did any of the badness can I blame you seeing as you were one of the first people I commented at and friended?
*ducks slap* lol
x

[holdouttrout.livejournal.com]

Most certainly! I am to blame for all fannish troubles, except those caused by everybody else. *snerk*

Just don't take the Guide too seriously. It's one person's opinion.

[splash-the-cat.livejournal.com]

I am to blame for all fannish troubles

SWEET! I am totally making an "Go blame Trout" icon for my next post that might cause trouble.

[holdouttrout.livejournal.com]

Maybe you ought to learn to read the rest of the sentence before iconing.

Actually, I want one that says "It's all my fault!"

[splash-the-cat.livejournal.com]

Maybe you ought to learn to read the rest of the sentence before iconing.


Pfft. Where's the fun in that?

[holdouttrout.livejournal.com]

OH MY GOD THAT'S AMAZING!!!

Can you make one that says "Blame me" ? FOR ME? I'll make it my default!

(I meant to ask more politely, and use the word "please" in there somewhere. *facepalm*)

[splash-the-cat.livejournal.com]

DEMANDING.



(I can do a "Blame me" too. I was in the middle of the above version when I got your comment. :)

[holdouttrout.livejournal.com]

No, that one's good! Brilliant! Thank you.

*happily steals*

[splash-the-cat.livejournal.com]

Since I had the file still open:



:)

[holdouttrout.livejournal.com]

hmmmm....which one to use? WHICH ONE?

[katcorvi.livejournal.com]

Go blame Trout for she brings PONIES!!!

[splash-the-cat.livejournal.com]

<--- :)

[katcorvi.livejournal.com]

Excellent icon!!

[rigel-7.livejournal.com]

Heee!

Well the etiquette post was interesting, but I have to note that the only time I'll ever actually announce that I've friended a person is when they have a request to do so in their userinfo.

I think it's because my LJ flist is my reading list and I don't actually expect people to be all "friendy" with me unless they want to, and then I'll pounce all over them and they'll realise that I really am quite mad and insane...

[holdouttrout.livejournal.com]

We love you being mad and insane, though!