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I'm slowly working my way through the meme post and giving answers. Y'alll are awesome. :-)

So...I finished the SW story last night. I'm posting the last of it tonight, I think. I am so excited. I'm very, very happy to have finished it. I loved the whole process of twisting the canon to suit the setting on Earth.

Honestly, it was written over too long a period of time, and it's a little disjointed. But for all that, I think it stands up pretty well.

I'll post a link to it here, too, once it's all done.

So...thoughts on Lost last night. I'm not a huge shipper on Lost anymore, but I have been a slight Jack/Kate shipper since day one. They're DOOMED. Absolutely. Also, Jack is an asshole. Doesn't mean I don't still think he's hot. And the island is mysterious. That is all.



I also told Jenn that I'd talk a little about my thoughts about House.



There are a few things I've come to realize: One is that when the show lives up to its name, it's awesome. As long as it's about House, about how he deals with things, about how he interacts with the people around him. And the truth is, he's a complete asshole who is entirely too good at manipulating people for his own good. And that's fascinating to me, although, as I rant about later, I wish the rest of the character development was as good.

I'm gonna admit that I think early seasons House and Cameron is a Very Bad Idea. Mostly because there is that initial attachment on Cameron's part that I don't think is necessarily a brilliant idea. I think she does have some sort of unhealthy attraction to House, although I think that later on that attraction isn't for the same reasons, and that she has a better balance about her own life and what she wants to do.

Oh, but I love the interaction between them. There's something really awesome about the way that Cameron puzzles House sometimes, and there's a really nice stubborn streak I see in Cameron that wants to figure House out, wants to understand him--because she thinks he's worth understanding, and not because she thinks he's always wrong.

Of course, I'm only in season three, and I guess from what other people have said that we don't get a whole lot of insight into the way Cameron's mind works. Which is too bad--how can you understand how House relates to someone without understanding how they relate to everyone else? That's why the scenes where it's Cuddy/Wilson/Cameron/Foreman/Chase/Patient are so interesting to me. I want more of that, so that when House comes up against a sticking point for Foreman, then we understand why it's there.

Otherwise it feels sort of sloppy.

Anyway, I'm totally on board House/Cameron as an angsty pairing of DOOM, and I'm totally on board Cameron/Wilson as a "Well, if we tag-team him, we can maybe keep him from self-destructing." (This also translates well into OT3, in my book).

I don't get Cameron/Chase. Really. Maybe there's something there I'm missing or haven't gotten to yet, but it seems sort of random.

I'm really never about the medical dramas, so House is unusual for me, as it is for Jenn. However, I think calling House a medical drama is a little odd, too. Just because the focus really isn't on the medical problems.

So that's what I see so far.

Date: 2008-05-02 06:23 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] vickyocean.livejournal.com
Eagerly awaiting the Star Wars fic. *rubs hands together in anticipated glee*

I feel pretty much the same way about you House/Cameron. I can see it happening, for good or ill, with them now that she's not working for him, because she has that distance from him and I think she's matured a bit.

I totally agree about Cameron's unhealthy obsession with House in the early seasons. Everytime I see that ep where she demands House go on a date with her in order for her to come back. I just want to smack her upside the head and ask "How old are you? 13?" Much the same way I always wanted to do to Scarlett with her Ashley thing in GWTW.

I don't really see Cameron/Wilson, because I've always got the impression that he didn't really like Cameron. Mainly in a "Go away. House is my project and cross to bear." kind of way and he was also got annoyed with her during her tattle-tale phase. Although they are a lot alike in many ways in that they feed on neediness.

Cameron/Chase was weird for me and also seemed like Cameron was trying to prove something to herself and to House. I don't want to say much more in case you haven't gotten to their thing yet.

House is one of those shows that I don't really have die-hard serious OTP. I'll occasionally read House/Cuddy, House/Cuddy/Wilson (which makes tons more sense to me than House/Cameron/Wilson), and House/Stacy, but I'm not obsessed with any of those in the same way I was with Sam/Jack. I wouldn't be bothered if he ended up with Cuddy. I think they're a good match, but there's a big part of me that really doesn't want to go down that path because I really like Cuddy and I wouldn't want him to ruin her. Sometimes I think the happiest ending to the show would be House/Wilson.

I'm sorry to run on like this. My thoughts got away from me. ; )


Date: 2008-05-02 08:03 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] binkii822.livejournal.com
I hope you watched Lost. It was full of Jater glee rounded out by angst/tragedy. Much fun!

Date: 2008-05-02 09:05 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] surreallis.livejournal.com
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You did it! Excellent!

I so agree on most points. Because when the show does it right, it's almost brilliant, but when it's bad... gah! And the first two seasons were just amazing when you take them as a whole in exploring House's life and psyche. But then... they sort of lose that, and the show becomes less about House's layers and more about pandering to comedy. Bah.

I love Cameron, obviously, and I think one of the things I like so much is exactly what you said. Because her and House during those early seasons are so obviously a bad idea. And, obviously, that's something they were trying to show too, and they did it really well. The date was a wince-worthy consequence of her trying to force his feelings from him. But it also sort of depends on whether you're interested in Cameron at all as a person, and why she did some of the things she did just made me want to know more. Unfortunately, they never gave us more. Damn it. I mean, she's young, and she's damaged and she's obviously had loss in her life. She's extremely committed to ethics, and her co-workers thought she was weak. When, really, she was nothing of the sort. But she does learn a lot from House, just like he learns a lot from her. Together they balanced each other out and started feeling their way forward.

I have to admit to instant empathy for her, because she's had a lot of 'very bad ideas' when it comes to House, and God knows I've had a lot of 'very bad ideas' over my life as well. And she's much younger than I am.

It's just so interesting to me when a female character doesn't fit into the usual mold. There's too many women on TV who are just ass-kickers or sarcasm factories or bland 'do it all' women. I guess that's what the masses of female viewers want to see, but to me it's just boring.

Yeah, the Cameron/Chase. Ick. That's where I suddenly lose faith in the genius behind House, because David Shore has made the comment that Cameron and Chase are together because they're the young, pretty doctors, so of course they should be together. And just... nice. You've written this very unconventional show and now you're going to do the most conventional pairings EVER. Very progressive, asshat. It's suspected they might have gone that route because the actors were dating, but that seems rather idiotic, even for DS.

Date: 2008-05-02 09:29 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] daisycm83.livejournal.com
See, it's so interesting to read the POV of someone who doesn't have the same gut reaction to Cameron I have, because there is something about that character that is just knee jerk badness for me. I can't explain it or put it into words, but something about her drives me INSANE. So I find it really interesting to talk to people who don't.

I love House more than just about anyone, and Cuddy I adore, and the Cuddy-Wilson-House dynamic in general. (Not to mention the sort of bizarro parallels between THAT dynamic and the Cameron-Chase-Foreman dynamic.)

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